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My name's James and... I'm an Oreo fan.
I like Oreos, but I REALLY like the thrill of discovering new variants and brands of "Oreo-style" cookies. I am planning a site to chronicle these cookies for posterity, from the Saudi Arabian "O-La" to the Spanish "Negresco" and the Finnish "Domino". They are all the same - only a bit different. I was wondering if anyone else out there shared and interest and might be able to help with the site or with photos / reviews. Or am I the only one who cares?
Nicey, I know your own preference for this brand, and in a way I agree with everything in your review. But what can I say, I'm hooked.
|Nicey replies: James:
I'm sure you are performing a vital service to humanity, it'll either be a valuable archive or a chilling warning. Let us know when its up and running, and don't forget the Philippine's Hi-Ro and the Spanish Millennium biscuits or those Turkish Tempo biscuits we did the other week.
|Barbara Elizabeth Stewart
In perusing your lovely archives, I came across a bit of contradictory reviewing and what appears to be bit of nationalistic bias in your assessments.
This is an excerpt from your review of (British) custard creams"
"It's a little known fact that the incisor teeth of the male human are specially adapted to prize apart the two biscuits of the custard cream so that the tasty cream layer can be got at."
And this is a review of the (American) oreos.
"The pack absurdly comes with eating instructions, of which there are six stages. I won't detail them all but basically you are encouraged to wrench the thing into its component parts. What is the point of assembling it in the first place if you have to take it all to bits to eat it? "
I can't stand oreos, either (sickly sweet cream and acrid chocolate) and I agree that the proliferating cutesy tendency of box-copywriters to explain how to eat crackers and cookies is irritating. (Cheez-Its describes the supposed aerodynamics of the four pinpricks in each cracker and then, in tiny print, presumably to fend off ligitation, informs the consumer that it's just joking.)
But fair is fair. Either it's sensible to pry a cream cookie apart to get at the "tasty" layer or it's pointless to assemble it if you have to "take it all to bits to eat it." You can't say it's all right for the English cookies and stupid for the American ones.
|Nicey replies: Well spotted so here is my heartfelt defense..
How many americans actually have to refer to the instructions on the side of the pack in order to consume their Oreos? I'm guessing none. This is why they are absurd.
The difference is really apparent when we consider the target beverages. A Custard Cream, built for tea, may be dunked in hot cuppa when whole and so comes ready to rock and roll. The Oreo on the other hand gets involved with a glass of milk at stage 4 or 5 I think according to the instructions, which means it would be more convenient if they were shipped disassembled and flat packed Ikea style ready for business.
One can choose to dismantle a Custard Cream should you wish, or to eat some other way, it's your choice. I don't slavishly have to take apart every Custard Cream I eat. In fact I mostly eat them whole. However, with the Oreo it has a diagram on the side of the pack telling you to do this. You see? Custard Cream, you choose what to do, Oreo, apparently a mandatory dismantling and cream licking rigmarole.
|Did you know that Americans also eat fried oreos? The oreo is coated in a pancake batter then deep fried for about 1 minute. Confectioners sugar is then sprinkled to the cookie puff while still warm. After consumption, a visit to both the dentist and cardiologist is in order. I've never tried this so I cannot say how wonderful or nasty this is.|
|Nicey replies: Wifey has heard that they also have an Oreo's cereal which is like lots of little bits of Oreo flavoured gravel.
|I'm not crazy about Oreos on their own, but they are amazing when crumbled up and put on ice cream.|
|Nicey replies: Actually Fred Pipes and myself saw an Oreo just randomly ditched on the pavement on Brighton seafront on Monday afternoon. Presumably this is another way in which they can be enjoyed. |
|Steve in Minnesota
|Believe it or not, you can find anything on the web. For example, a website dedicated to... of all things... the wonderful, far better than Oreo, Sunshine Hydrox cookie|
As a kid, and even today, I much prefer Sunshine brand to Nabisco. Take crackers (soup crackers), for example, Sunshine Whole Wheat Crackers are great, Nabisco are far to bland and way over salted. Back to the main point, the Hydrox cookie was much better that Oreo, it had better flavor and better ingredients; it was flavored with real vanilla. But Nabisco had a marketing force the Sunshine just couldn't compete with. In the US, from a marketing perspective, perception is far more important that content.
Also, as you noted yourself, the 'Hydrox' name is a bit odd, and somewhat reminiscent of drain cleaner, but it is actually a composite name made up of the names of the two primary persons in the Sunshine company at that time. I think they 'Hy...' was for Hyrum, but I'm not sure about the '...drox' part. I knew this at one time, but that was many, too many, years ago. It was suggested that they change the name, but they were steadfast in their loyalty to it.
Keebler has now taken over the Sunshine brand, and Hydrox, when they can be found, are marketed under the name 'Droxies'.
One final comment, Oreos are the classic lazy mom - hyperactive kids cookie. Pure balls of sugar sandwiched between hyper-chocolate; just by them and eat them. What kid can resist a ball of chocolate and sugar overload.
As far as the instruction, that was added many years later as a marketing ploy. It simply reflects the way kids eat Oreos. You see the trick is to twist one cookie off while leaving 100% of the filling on the remaining cookie. However, for the unskilled and the heavy handed, a slight prying action will leave filling on both cookies. Of course, there is nothing you can do then but lick the frosting off, eat the cookies, and try again.
Another, actually much better, Nabisco cookie is the 'Nilla Wafer' (Vanilla Wafers). These are just what the name implies, small round hard vanilla biscuits with a yummy flavor. Their not really wafers, but a small round cookie/biscuit that soaks up milk like a sponge. They are also very good for crumbling up and making a bottom crust for assorted deserts.
Another unrelated cookie related note; instead of Ginger Nuts, we have Ginger Snaps. Ultra-rockhard ginger cookies with a pleasant ginger bite to them. Also, excellent when softened in mild. However, nothing beats my Mom's homemade ginger cookies; thick soft and chewy with a wonderful ginger flavor.
Steve in Minnesota; USA
|Nicey replies: Steve,
Right you are then.